Usually I just read through everything and ignore whatever gets too dramatic. But I have been on this page for a while now, and all they do is talk about circumcision. It's like their fetish, they debate about how horrible it is and all this other nonsense! This will be my one and only post about circumcision (because I'm not a crazy who talks about it all the time).
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So last night I put my foot down and started defending why I think that circumcision is a perfectly fine and normal thing to do! The funny thing is, they kept running circles around each fact that another woman was posting about how infections and problems are more common with infants/children/men who are left intact.
The first "fact" they kept saying was that it is against human rights (because an infant can't choose). Well no shit! They can't choose a lot of things, that is why there are PARENTS to make the choices for them until they are of age to decide. A mother and father are not going to do something unnecessary or something they feel will be unsafe for their children.
Their second argument, was that the doctors STRAPPED baby boys down to do the procedure and that it is painful and unethical. Okay.... Really? Where do these people live, under a rock?! There is a such thing as pain medication, and doctors use it! And it is HIGHLY unlikely that doctors actually strap baby's down because it would be illegal and the parents would be able to sue.
Third argument, "no medical organization recommends it." If it were so bad, why do they even offer it?!!! Simple as that.
Fourth thing, 80% of men in the world are left intact. Well, that may be for other countries, but in the U.S., I wouldn't be surprised if 80% were circumcised. I hate to sound like a whore (I kind of was in high school before meeting my hubby) but every guy I was with was circumcised. And that brings me to their next argument...circumcised men can't perform sexually very well if at all. HA!!!! My husband is, and we have AMAZING sex 3-5 times a week and have been since we started dating. I'm sure if he had a problem, we would know about it ;-) Idiots.
Their sixth argument was the ribbed condom was made to feel like a foreskin. Well if that's the case, I would NEVER want to be with a guy who is intact. Those condoms hurt and SUCK!!!
Seventh argument was that circumcised men's penises look like dried up pieces of gum because "the foreskin keeps it naturally moist". LMFAO!!! Wow, obviously you haven't seen a great penis then because I know for DAMN sure my husband does not. As for the moist part, why do you think there is so many problems with infections?!!! DUH!! And again, this leads me into their eighth argument was why cut off something to reduce risk of infection, why not just keep it and give them antibiotics? Umm, pumping yourself and your children full of antibiotics causes a weaker immune system and can lead to the development of super bugs. Most doctors will actually tell you to eat better and take vitamins when you have a cold versus taking a ton of cold medicine because it will help strengthen your immune system. And that right there is FACT honey, so I wouldn't even try to have a comeback on that one ;-)
Their ninth argument about how bad circumcision is that parents who do it are lazy. Wow... Pretty sure just because you circumcise your son does NOT automatically make you a lazy parent! A lazy parent is one who sits at home, never works, and lives off the government; NOT someone who does everything they can that is best for their child! They say that if you are so worried about infection, then teach your son to wash it right. Well, hate to say it but two to six year olds, no matter how you try to teach them, will NOT always wash correctly, leading to infection, and then possibly having to get circumcised at an older age, which will definitely mess their emotions and feelings up! Why not take the risk out of the equation and do it when they are infants to keep from scaring them later in life. I personally knew a man who had to have it done at age 42 (and I'm sure he knew how to wash correctly at that age. Duh...). Um, OUCH!! Oh and they said that 100 infants die from circumcision complications a year. I would like to see that study, see where this is happening, and pretty sure IF (and that's a big IF) it was actually true, those places where it happened would have been sued and the doctors would have been forced to quit.
Lastly, they posted links to their "sources" (which included websites called "Dr. Momma" "circumcisioninfo.net (which is a home done website, hence the .net instead of .com)" and they also stated Wikipedia. The thing about Wikipedia is that psycho's just like them can go on their and change anything they want! Anyone can change it!! As for the other websites, they are run by women just like these who think that it is a terrible thing to do to your son. And they say that women who circumcise their sons are just sheep following a herd. Pot, meet kettle. :-P
Now mind you, all this rambling is coming from women who are modern day hippies. They talk about not washing their hair (no-pooing, sounds fantastic right?! *gag*), not using toothpaste or deodorant (god help us in the summer time!!) and who don't give any vaccinations; which makes the world unsafe for all of our future generations. Especially when measles or polio starts coming back. Pretty sure they never thought that one through! If everything was so "unsafe" then why do you put your child in a car and drive? That is the most dangerous thing to do in the world! You may be a great driver, but who said anything about Joe Shmo who decided to spend 9am to 1pm at the bar and drive home? My point exactly.
I guess what I am getting at with all of this is that I would MUCH rather trust a doctor (who went through how many freaking years of school?!) versus these idiotic "mothering" websites who have no real doctor background or experience. It is all opinion, everything in the world is. You can decide to do it or not to, but no one will EVER change my opinion on it.
ETA:
http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/27/13460930-circumcision-benefits-outweigh-risks-but-parents-should-choose-pediatricians-say
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You make many valid arguments and I agree this is a very heated debate on many websites and blogs and forums. People get really obsessive about it. I just wanted to point out that they do strap babies down. I work in a hospital and there is a circumcision board that they strap babies to. You strap their legs so they don't move and wrap their arms up tight. But we strap babies down for other reasons too. It's legal. Sucks for the babies, but is legal. And surprisingly a lot of parents want to watch the circumcisions... which I find strange. But to each their own.
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